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The price (and reward) for being a Controller

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When I was in my teens with my Ill/Emp controller I could go no where without a team, I couldn't even do my own missions without help. I was effectivly, someones bitch for 30 lvl's :)

Now fast approaching 32 I've discovered the price that I paid for my pets. I had to be everyones bitch. If you can make it through all the blame of "why didn't you heal me?" and then you do nothing but heal "Why didn't you lock down those mobs better?" if you can struggle through the never being able to be alone on missions, and the semi-constant fear that you might aggro a mob on the street because there's no way you're gonna be able to take them down before you run out of end. Then you get rewarded with your pets.

The closer I get to Phantsasam the more I'm able to solo, my Phantom Army is a bit more efficient now, they hit when I need them too, and recharge pretty quick. I still ahn't solo without them, but with them I can take down some fairly scary mobs in Brickstown.

I've been told that the majority of AT's that were able to solo at lower lvl's will need help in the end. That once I become a one woman killing machine, the tanks I walys envied will be comming to me, not for heals, but for xp. That the trade off for being the go to girl on every team is that someday if I don't want to team at all, I don't have to.

Maybe that's why you don't see as many 32+ Controllers, maybe some of them couldn't take the crap. But I'm so close now I can taste it,and I'm not giving up. :)

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  thejeni on 08/30/04 11:38

Well i'm glad you stuck it out to finally be able to solo... if it makes you feel any better my lvl 28 blaster has problems soloing also... can't go anywhere w/o bait of some kind, and i tend to be defeated in a lot of my missions (but then again my contacts are trying to kill me). I've heard that controllors become Gods once they hit their 30's. So congrats at finally being able to solo (well kinda solo i guess you'll never be lonley w/ those pets of yours)

  Transmission on 08/30/04 12:26

Keep on keepin on.I bet that was a long hard road to the 30s. I have yet to see any controllers 30+ (on triumph) with emp as a secondary. Thats a very hard class to balance. Do I slot my heals or my holds?
I personaly have never been good at the healing, nor do I have the patientce. I've tried but I get frustraited with being "blamed" for others dying mistakes.So heres a big pre-congratz to you on 32 for when you hit it.

As a side note do have any suggestions on slotting phantom army for an almost 18 Ill/Rad controller?

  Sapphire_Gypsy on 08/30/04 13:48

With rad as a secondary, you get it a litte easier than I did with my Emp, YOu get a boost from your fields and get better accuracy with your PA... my Phantoms are 6 slotted... 2 acc, 4 damage. I manage, I also have hasten 6 slotted, only way I can clean up the ones left behind after the Phantoms dissapear.
As for slotting yours I'd go 6 slotted, 5 damage, 1 acc... just keep your fields up. You'll do more damage tham mine, but they'll be about as accurate. You're going to want Stamina, and hasten... I have found that with almost any character these are my suggestions... the earlier you can get them the better. As for slotting your holds or heals... I did my blind 6 slot before my heal. If there's a baddie whailing away on a team mate I could at least lock him down first so I didn't ahve to worry aboutt he recharge time on my heal. My Flash, is still not 6 slotted. I am planning on droping deceive... I've found it to be a firly useless power past a certain range. In teams you have to announce who you're deciving, and most of the time people then complain that you;'re not deciving the Boss, or that they're not gettting xp if you do that... I haven't used it in a good 5 lvl's. The thing with healing is you do have to be paitent... it's hard to know when you have to save you're end to be the hero and heal someone and when to know that you don't have to watch that team box like a hawk and can actually fight some too.

I think 6 slotting PA as early as you can will give you an advantage over me, I didn;t 6 slot them until recently. I'd been using them simply as their names imply Decoys. Using them as shields for my often mostly blaster teams. With them 6 slotted early you sould be able to solo a bit more effectivly than I did. And you'll have to let me know how it goes.

Now none of this is tested, it's all just what I've noticed. So good luck to you... hopfully I'll beable to get Sapphire Gypsy to 40 and will be one of the few Emp secondary's to go after Hamidon. :)

Mad it through the grind to 30 but my reward is not as good.  wildjourne on 09/11/04 12:05
 
I read that controllers really come into their own at higher levels and it's obviously true with most. Unfortunatley I chose Mind Control. No pets for me and if I use my big power I get no XP and it pisses off any group I might be travelling with.

I still can not figure out why sending the pets in gives XP and controlling the baddies to kill each other off doesn't. Still love my controller but it is frustrating.

Need a team?  ShadowReign on 09/22/04 13:26
 

Sapphire,

Leveling can be tough, as I'm sure you know. Some levels feel like torture...

If you need a team, and you're on Triumph, look me up.

Post respec, I have:
Stamina 6 slotted
Hasten 6 slotted
PA 6 slotted (2 recharge, 4 damage)
Phantasm 6 slotted (2 recharge, 4 damage)
Flash 6 slotted (3 acc, 1 recharge, 2 hold)

ShadowReign
Ill/Kin lev35
ShadowClan

Worked on my Illusion/Empathy Controller  goam3 on 09/30/04 03:36

Character Name: Asphalt
After a few weeks i have finally made it to level 29, in the earlier levels pre-phantom army levels i was nothing but a pawn on the field, trying not to draw as that much aggro so i could heal as much as possible, in my early levels i chose to 6 slot my heals as soon as possible. granted i couldn't really do much but heal of course as a controller ya need a team so why not keep em alive. of course before they came out with update 2 i hadn't got stamina, hasten or any useful moves like that. So i was weak. i six slotted PA asap. so i could solo but then hadda wait on PA, flash only holds them for so long unless you have a nice amount of hold durations on it, but then you gotta worry about it's acc. well after respec i got all my good powersets, health stamina hasten and now i'm to the point to where i do missions all the time, gettin ready for lovely founders falls and brickstown



Asphalt
Illusion/Empathy Level 29
<-----New Era----->

  Sapphire_Gypsy on 10/26/04 18:42

Everything is great post respec... I've clawed my way up to a whoping (aka I get to play maybe 4 hours a week) 33... Post Phantasam I'm kicking villan butt and taking initials cause I'm moving too fast to take names.

In retrospect... it was worth it... all the hard work and teaming I put into it was worth it. To have people com up to me and ask me to team with them now... it was worth it... just aggrivating :)

  Randell44 on 01/20/05 12:06

lol my illusion/kinetics dude could hold his own till I used the free Respec :(. Now I'm a team player only. Funny thing is....I had spectral THATS RIGHT spectral 6 slotted and did just about as well wtih hasten also nearly 6 slotted. I spectral recharged so fast I could actually kill stuff between holds and such and I sprinkled a few end reducers enhance around and wasnt't too bad on end. Oh how i screwed up in changing around my enhances for healing lol. Ahh well. Live and learn. Pretty soon I'll be buff support from kinetics anyhows :/. As for my lvl 23 earth controller almost lvl 24. HE IS GONNA ROCK!!!! (sorry bout the pun)

  winnowill on 01/27/05 09:29

You're right my emp controller has much to do whether its healing a teammate or healing a fallen hero she passes by!!! its a daunting task but someone has to do it. More and more though i'm seeing controllers everywhere!!! its good to see more are sticking with it, though challenging it is very much worth it in the end!

  scorpioDX on 01/31/05 18:37
 
Fire/rad controller here on guardian, when i hit 32 seemed like the game was just starting after group after group you get pets then its game over =P

  booboofinger on 05/19/05 12:29

I hear a lot of people talking about how hard it is to solo as a controler, even to the point where the GameSpot guide had only one word for it's suggestion on the point: "dont't". However, I fail to undertand why that is so.
I have a MindControl/Empathy controler who is right now in her mid teens and I had no trouble soloing. As a matter of fact, I was at level 6 by the time I first joined a team. And even so, there have been several occasions where I teamed up with blasters, tanks and scrappers and what not and was the last one standing at the end of a brutal fight. Happilly for the rest of the team, I can rez ; )
True, controlers deal sub-par damage and are very wimpy when it comes to HP, but being able to mez and mass mez the mobs gives controlers an edge that is hard to beat. And if you add the propper enhancements, you can kill a decent mob in about 3-4 attacks. I guess the whole technique for playing a controler is putting tactics above brawl. If you do that, I think you can perfectly solo a controler toon without being on first name basis with the staff at the local hospital.
I'd even venture to say that my controler has a higher survivability rate then my blaste who got owned on her first solo mission outside the tutorial area.

  mkauf84 on 04/19/07 18:40

I have a mind controller and I hate teaming especially with ignorant players. Like scapper who attack the enemy you put to sleep and blaster that love to be 10 miles away from the defender. I keep telling them they need to stay close. But there arguement is they'll get attacked. I also don't like players who don't know how to use knockback powers just to get a little more damage. I would like to see players who know how to use knockbacks to knock enemies back into to group. The early are fine. But in later levels I get mess mez; so learn how to use knockback.

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