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Perceptor II

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The story behind Powerset Proliferation

Interesting article from Gamezone.com here telling the story about the discovery and the accident which causes powerset proliferation. An interesting read if you're into the mythology of CoX.

But of particular interest is the blurb at the bottom of the article:

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Be sure to come back tomorrow when Dr. Brainstorm will reveal the complete list of Proliferated Powersets that each Archetype will be receiving in Issue 12: Midnight Hour! of City of Heroes/City of Villains.

I'm too lazy to keep up with my own altoholism. Abana is my "main" right now as I'm going for my first level 50, but as for my creations here's a short list:

Abana (hero, Champion), lvl 50 mag tanker, stone/stone/fit
Etain Echraide (hero, Virtue), lvl 21 mag controller, plant/therm
One Man Vs. The Mob (hero, Virtue), lvl 11 sci blaster, nrg/nrg/fly/stealth
Ballplayer Reverend (hero, Champion), lvl 19 nat tanker, will/mace/speed
Dr. Arjun Girish (hero, Virtue), lvl 6 nat controller, mind/kin
Aulay Marwaring (hero, Champion), lvl 5 mut blaster, ar/mm
Ashmorah (hero, Champion), lvl 4 warshade

03/27/08 19:09

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

AWESOME!!!!

03/27/08 19:30

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

When I see it on the official site, I'll believe it.

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03/28/08 05:11

Perceptor II

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

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When I see it on the official site, I'll believe it.

This article was linked to from the front page of the official site.

03/28/08 06:00

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

I saw this too yesterday. If they do announce what's going to be proliferated, can someone make sure to copy and paste the announcement here? the OBs are blocked for me at work and I don't want to have to wait until 4 this afternoon to get the good news!

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03/28/08 06:14

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

I just don't want to see them going "yeah, it says tomorrow...". Then tomorrow comes (which is today) and have them say, "yeah, it says tomorrow..."

03/28/08 07:07

Perceptor II

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

We'll see. I actually kinda with you in saying, "I'll believe it when I believe it."* Still, this is official. And they do have to spill the beans eventually.

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03/28/08 07:25

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

Blaster
New Primary - Psychic Blast
New Secondary - Mental Manipulation

Corruptor
New Primary - Electrical Blast
New Secondary - Storm Summoning

Controller
New Primary - Plant Control
New Secondary - Thermal Radiation

Dominator
New Primary - Earth Control
New Secondary - Electricity Manipulation

Defender
New Primary - Cold Domination
New Secondary - Ice Blast

Mastermind
New Secondary - Storm Summoning

Brute
New Primary - Battle Axe
New Primary - War Mace
New Secondary - Super Reflexes

Stalker
New Primary - Electric Melee
New Secondary - Electric Armor

Tank
New Primary - Dark Armor
New Secondary - Dark Melee

Scrapper
New Primary - Fiery Melee
New Secondary - Fiery Aura

03/28/08 11:10

Schattenbolt

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

So...

Tanks got a scrapper set
Scrappers got a Tank set
Brutes got a Stalker set
and Stalkers got a Brute set?

That sucks.

Everything else is cool... but that sucks.

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03/28/08 11:41

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

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So...

Tanks got a scrapper set
Scrappers got a Tank set
Brutes got a Stalker set
and Stalkers got a Brute set?

That sucks.

It makes sense though that a melee class gets another melee class set. Sorry if this bursts your bubble for a Psychic Blast Scrapper :P

03/28/08 12:06

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

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Tank
New Primary - Dark Armor
New Secondary - Dark Melee

Scrapper
New Primary - Fiery Melee
New Secondary - Fiery Aura

Bet no one saw this coming.

03/28/08 12:23

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

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Tank
New Primary - Dark Armor
New Secondary - Dark Melee

Scrapper
New Primary - Fiery Melee
New Secondary - Fiery Aura

Bet no one saw this coming.

For Real. well i would like to see a fire/fire scrapper, thats got to be really powerful.

but a super reflexes brute? i am not too sure how that would play out

Edit: i wonder what mental manipulation will be like.

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03/28/08 12:32

Perceptor II

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

I was kinda hoping for electric tankers myself. Still, dark tankers have possibilities. The only other new power set that intrigues me is psychic blasters, but we already knew that one. I'm already planning on giving one of my started-and-quickly-abandoned characters a "poor man's respec" to take advantage of that power.

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03/28/08 12:51

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

I like the Tank and Scrapper choices. Dark Armor is going to be an outstanding tank set. However...I hope Cloak of Darkness is replaced with something else.

03/28/08 12:57

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

It just seems odd to me, I guess, that everyone got a villain/hero power except the melee ATs. Although now it's going to be a REAL pain for tanks to keep aggro off of Fire/Fire scrappers. The AoE damage they'll put out will be INSANE!!!

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03/28/08 13:12

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

I can't wait to not play a Psycic/Mental Blaster.

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03/28/08 13:17

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

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If a scrapper is going to be drawing that much aggro, he better be able to survive on his own.

I hope they add the KB protection to dark armor. That's a real PITA for me.

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03/28/08 13:20

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

It'll probably be about the same as trying to pull the agro off of a spines scrapper.

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03/28/08 13:26

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

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Wow, I'm actually fairly impressed with the turnout (minus thermal for controllers, though it may be useful to superbuff a pet). Fire scrappers are really what I've always wanted, imagine fire crits, good stuff there. Dark Tanks could potentially rival invulnerable tanks, plus the psi defense, hooray for killing carnies. Actually, Cold/Ice defenders has me most interested... I imagine the sets might not be best together, but this is a definite useful boost to defenders. Hopefully they get that character slot expansion system in place, I'll need some extra room!

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03/28/08 13:36

Perceptor II

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

Excerpts from the article that give some justification behind some of the choices.

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...a lot of Brute players have been asking for Ice-based powers, and I should point out that in the City of Villains beta, there were ... problems ... with Ice Brutes. You see, when Ice attacks land, they tend to slow down the attacks of the opponent. For Tankers this is fine, but Brutes live and die by their Fury bar. The Fury bar relies on attacks coming in on you at a steady pace, and so slowing down that pace with Ice powers is self defeating. Ice Brutes had problems generating Fury, and so they were cut from City of Villains, and sadly won’t be returning, even in this new Proliferation.

Having played some with a willpower brute, yeah, I run into some crowds counting on Fury to make my last few punches devastating. It makes sense to not use powers that interfere with that.

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And that brings us to Psychic Blast Blasters. I know a lot of jaws dropped when they saw this was going to be a reality, but Psychic damage is one of those “all or little” damage types. It is either highly resisted, or not at all. The “newish” Secondary set of Mental Manipulation gives some moderate control options as well. This will shake up the PvP game for sure, and the developers will be keeping a VERY close eye on this powerset to make sure that it is not overpowered in the hands of Blasters.

Emphasis mine.

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Tankers will get Dark Armor and Dark Melee as Primary and Secondary powersets, so they have an avenue into Negative Energy damage that was previously unavailable to them.

OK, that's why we get dark tankers instead of electric ones. Makes sense.

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All the villain electrical effects are of course tinted in the evil red that City of Villain players have come to be familiar with.

I sometimes get sick of all the "evil red" when I play the villains' side, but oh well. :-P

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03/28/08 14:35

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

Heh, when i read this I was all "d00d, this is so sweet gotta log on quick to check out psi manip...and then i realized i have to wait til i12...

It burns!!!!!1! T.T

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03/28/08 14:59

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

So, anyone else thinking this is at least partially in response to Cryptic's Champions Online and their touted diversity of power-choices.
It's a staple feature of the Heroes/Champions systems and Cryptic has been making much of it for their game. Though if you read carefully you'll have noticed by now that Champions Online will not exactly be using the same system, in fact sounds a lot like another P&P to MMO RPG conversion where just the IP was copied, not the System. I'm referring to D&DO where you keep running into familiar terms and concepts except it's in a completely different game-system.

One way it's going to be different from the P&P system is that the online game won't be offering the full range of choices the P&P game has. But Cryptic's definitely seeing more variety of choice as a means to lure players from CoX, and I believe this Proliferation to be NCSoft's answer to keep 'm here.

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03/28/08 15:24

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

Ok, lots of things I'm gonna say. Most of them: AWESOME!!!

Fire/Fire Scrappers? Oh my...
Psychic/Energy Blasters?? Gasp...
Earth/Elec Doms??? Yeah!...
Illusion/Thermal Controllers?!?! I think I might cry...

I'm totally going to LOVE this issue! Can't wait!

Next off, I actually think you might be right Iani. They don't want to replace one hero game with another so they're going to try and save CoH from becoming abandoned by giving it more flexibility. I do think though that this could be bad for Champs Online. It's getting more and more similar to CoH and if it gets too similar than I don't think it'll be that great...

But that's just my 2 influ. Now I'm gonna go make some builds for my many, MANY new toons

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Spectral Storm, lvl 50 Illusion/Storm
Powerlevel Man, lvl 50 Fire/Kin
Rider of the Flames, lvl 26 Fire/Fire Blaster
Sound Barrier, lvl 24 FF/Sonic
Cap'n Ghostbeard, lvl 24 DB/Regen
K'zilix, lvl 12 WS
And, lvl 8 Invuln/Fire

Villains:
Lt. Surge, lvl 40 Elec/Stone
Skull Cyborg, lvl 29 Bots/Traps

And various other lowbies...

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03/28/08 16:28

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

oooh fire/fire scrapper..Yay another scrapper for me to get killed yay..rr meep

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03/28/08 18:09

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

Can anyone say Firehawk? Fire/SR to the rescue!

03/28/08 20:11

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

i was hoping for a EM/ele scrapper, that coudlve made my day

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03/29/08 02:47

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

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Blaster
New Primary - Psychic Blast
New Secondary - Mental Manipulation

ok wow. even though it will probably be WAY overdone, this will be so incredibly sweet that i might pee myself. so other ones would be cool too, like maybe elec/mental or psy/elec or psy/energy (which ive wanted FOREVER) again, i will probably pee myself. i wounder what they'll take out for aim? and they will have to move the snipe, i bet. :D

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Corruptor
New Primary - Electrical Blast
New Secondary - Storm Summoning

eh, its pretty cool, but i probably won't be playing one.

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Controller
New Primary - Plant Control
New Secondary - Thermal Radiation

plant control will be awesome, but what would got well with it? also, im not too into thermal radiation, so im not as excited about that. but plant controllers!!!

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Dominator
New Primary - Earth Control
New Secondary - Electricity Manipulation

i love earth control! i will probably not make an earth/elec, but both of these intrigue me. maybe earth/psy or something.

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Defender
New Primary - Cold Domination
New Secondary - Ice Blast

can anyone say storm/ice? i was hoping for defender fire blasts, but this is just fine with me.

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Brute
New Primary - Battle Axe
New Primary - War Mace
New Secondary - Super Reflexes

im interested to see a super strength/super reflexes brute...hmm...maybe ill try these new ones out, but i've never really gotten into the weapon sets.

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Stalker
New Primary - Electric Melee
New Secondary - Electric Armor

eh.

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Tank
New Primary - Dark Armor
New Secondary - Dark Melee

this makes me happy, but as said before, i hope they replace shadow cloak.

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Scrapper
New Primary - Fiery Melee
New Secondary - Fiery Aura

oh. my. god. i am very excited about fire melee. even though ive never really tried it, the higher damage is appealing. even more so with scrappers. :D

so, i think a new second home server is in order. or, if anyone wants to set up a team with me to play together, let me know! i would be probably most interested in a cold/ice defender, a fire/(either SR or WP) scrapper, and a psy/mental blaster.

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03/29/08 13:28

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

I've been playing alot on Guardian, Dose. Once I12 hits, I'll be glad to roll up a duo set with you. =D

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03/29/08 14:09

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

I wish that they would have added Ice Stalkers. that would have been uber.

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03/30/08 12:24

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RE: The story behind Powerset Proliferation

or maybe dark blasters, with darkness manipulation? or maybe....i dunno.

03/30/08 14:07

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