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Lazorus
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I'm gonna try and roll a new defender, Empathy/Energy Defender and make him melee with heals.
Anyone try this yet? Or passably have some insight to this build?
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| 08/16/07 14:13 |
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pathofwrath
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Not possible. Defenders don't get melee attacks.
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| 08/16/07 14:15 |
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Electro
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I made a Kinetics/Energy Defender recently, and was thinking the same thing. Too bad you have to choose the energy blast and cannot have access to the energy manipulation. Kinetics/Energy Manip would be a fun combo.
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| 08/16/07 14:21 |
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Lazorus
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Well...I was thinking of the Secondary Melee attacks, like Flurry, Boxing, Kick and Air Sup.
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| 08/17/07 01:06 |
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| QUOTE | | Well...I was thinking of the Secondary Melee attacks, like Flurry, Boxing, Kick and Air Sup. |
I don't think that would work out very well.
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| 08/17/07 03:54 |
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| QUOTE | | QUOTE | | Well...I was thinking of the Secondary Melee attacks, like Flurry, Boxing, Kick and Air Sup. |
I don't think that would work out very well. |
I second that motion. The Fighting Pool would be a wasted pool and two powers for a defender. You'd have to 6 slot each of the two attacks for them to only be 30% non-suck. Flurry would keep you rooted in melee too long and AoE exposure would be very fatal.
Air Superiority wouldn't be a bad choice if you're going to fly, but I wouldn't try and be a blapper with it. I'd use it for mostly self defense if you ever peel aggro off the tank.
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| 08/17/07 06:14 |
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The biggest thing is when you have Empathy in your archetype, it is assumed that you will be primarily a healer. Many groups won't like that you are attacking more then you are healing. Also as big stated, a number of those powers have long animations and cause possibly miss a chance to heal.
You can make whatever archetype you want, but some assumptions are going to be made by your teammates. I would suggest getting a different Defender Primary power if you want to try this kind of style. Rad or Forcefield. That way you can benefit the group and still deal out damage while your powers are benefiting the group.
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| 08/17/07 06:55 |
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Good look, Swiss. I didn't think about the other primaries.
Sonic is also a great team buff then forget set. It lets you blast away until the bubbles expire.
I want to make a FF/? offender just for that reason. Minimal power selection from the primary pool until later on allows you to build a more fun hero.
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| 08/17/07 07:34 |
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The trouble with the power pool attack powers is that they just don't have the damage. As a Defender, you are squishy, so if you can't kill mobs quickly they are gonna give you a dirt-nap pretty quick. If you wanted to try it anyway, I recommend Rad as your primary. Debuffing the mob's accuracy will dramatically increase your survivability.
And in terms of which attacks to get, Air Superiority is excellent. It does decent damage, coupled with knockdown (not knockback) nearly 100% of the time. If the mob is busy falling down and getting up, he won't be attacking you as much.
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| 08/17/07 09:13 |
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I've seen a very effective melee defender combo with Kin/Dark and picking up those forementioned power pool attacks. I tried it out from a great guide I saw on the main boards by Luminara (I believe). It's alot of fun, I just ended up changing to more blasting with the two great AoEs Dark has. Went more with the team makeup I'm usually with.
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| 08/17/07 10:23 |
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| QUOTE | I'm gonna try and roll a new defender, Empathy/Energy Defender and make him melee with heals.
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if u want "melee with heals" then i recamend u try dark, rad, or kin for your primary. they all have one AoE heal and with dark and rad u will make the enemies hit softer and not as often. and with kinetics u can have really nice dmg debuffing in the late game while aslo boosting your own dmg. also FS + tough + epics shield = some pretty good resistance. but if u want to go melee with a defender i would definately NOT go with empathy.
just my 2 influence
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| 08/17/07 14:34 |
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Lazorus
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Hmm...I never thought about KIn/Dark, I guess witht he Shadow Fall as an extra source of defence then it may be better, also I'll have Sands of Mu so it may not be too bad. I just wanted to break away from the standard healer Arcetype that every one expects from a Defender.
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| 08/21/07 11:54 |
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I have a lvl 50 Empathy/Energy Blaster. My 2 cents worth is "Don't Do It". I had a great time as a healer getting to 50, but thats pretty much the end for that build. At 50, not many toons need healing...and after respec.ing this toon several times, it's still a squishy, and horrible with solo fights. I'd go with a different primary if I had it to do again.
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| 12/27/07 07:22 |
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Wow, necropost. :p
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| 12/27/07 08:29 |
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Now this is one I have never thought of. A melee defender. Hmmmm. The one thing about the power pool attacks that I noticed was that they are generally quick recharging and low end usage. That would have it's advantages. Now I'm wondering if it can be done. You guys know how I love the crazy build ideas! I feel an alt coming on.
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